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Poll: Is the “No tolerance” policy for fights in school appropriate, or too far?

Fights are an inevitable part of school. They’re also pretty remarkable… as soon as one begins to brew, you can almost feel the tension pulsing throughout the school, and students always have an instinctive sense that tells them which way to go to watch. Students would always crowd around the fight, not only to watch, but to block administrators from breaking up the fight. For a lot students, fights are the best entertainment at lunch. I was the same way — I loved watching fights. Why, I can’t really explain or justify, but I enjoyed spectating.

Sure, school fights rarely involve karate, they draw a lot of attention from everybody.

Sure, school fights rarely involve karate, they draw a lot of attention from everybody.

On the administration’s end, fights are a nightmare. Having to break them up, deal with the students involved, and prevent further fights is definitely a nuisance, and so schools do their best to prevent fights.

A really common method to prevent fights is the “no tolerance” policy: if you are in a fight, you are going to be suspended, no matter what. Over the last ten years, this policy has caught on strongly. But is it fair, and does it really solve problems? I’ve never been convinced.

The flaws the schools don’t realize

No matter what the circumstances leading up to the fight are, all involved members are going to receive the same punishment. This works out well if both parties are the leading cause, but what if you are jumped by a group of people? What if you did nothing to instigate the fight, but suddenly find yourself in a situation? In theory, the only way to avoid punishment is to let the others beat the crap out of you until help comes. Never mind that you did nothing to bring this on yourself — you’re going to be suspended. Some schools allow you to defend yourself, but typically their idea of “self defense” kicks in after you’ve been punched around a few times, by which time the fight could already be over.

Backing out of fights, like schools wants you to do, is a great way to lose face and ruin your reputation. If someone challenges you to a fight to resolve an issue and you back down out of fear of punishment, then you will have to deal with mock and ridicule over it for a while. Sure, reputations aren’t everything, but I know most people would rather choose a week of suspension over being ridiculed for the rest of high school. Backing down could also encourage people to antagonize you further because they know you won’t fight back. Stories with morals always encourage kids to stand up for themselves, but schools expect you to back down and tell a teacher. Many parents — my own included — are accepting if you get in a fight to defend yourself rather than back down and let people walk over you.

Fights can also solve problems. Once, I was in a long feud with a friend of mine — we were always at each other’s throats with insults and stupid bickering, until one day we were about to fight. The fight got broken up, but for some reason we were just able to drop the drama and get over it. We became friends again. Some times (for guys especially), fighting is the best and final solution to tension, and after the fight, life goes back to normal. Delaying or avoiding a fight can prolong the tension.

Lastly, discouraging fights on campus only encourages them to happen off campus. Fights off-campus will go on a lot longer before being stopped, and weapons are more likely to be drawn off campus as well. At least on campus, administrators can come break it up before things get severely out of hand. Just because schools prevent a fight from occurring on campus doesn’t mean the fight won’t occur at all.

How should fights be punished?

I do believe that there are many times when both parties should be punished equally, but that’s definitely not true in all cases. The no-tolerance policy makes fights a black-and-white issue when in reality there’s always a lot of gray. Punishments need to be based on the context of the situation, and both sides need to be heard. A student who is jumped or is defending his or herself should not be punished nearly as severely as a student who antagonizes others.

What do you think about the no-tolerance policy for fights?

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7 Replies to “Poll: Is the “No tolerance” policy for fights in school appropriate, or too far?”

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1. yugderf 47 year old male

March 6th, 2009 9:50 pm

Fighing is not the way to solve disputesbut sometime one or the other or both partys come to that level to settle. Remember the founding fathers Alexander Hamilton and Arron Burr. Gentlemen of the past settle disputes with guns sometimes. Times have changed but have men that much.

2. Andy

March 22nd, 2009 1:02 pm

the “no tolerance” policy doesn’t just affect fighting. kids aren’t even allowed to play “cops and robbers” on the playground anymore.

not to mention, the school my brother’s at? even if you do nothing and just sit there getting the crap kicked out of you, they suspend you. there is zero way for a victim to not be punished. the geeky kid who got beat up for wearing thick glasses gets a week’s suspension, sitting right next to the well known bully who beat him up.

all it does is set kids up to fail as adults. when you’re out of school, there are no teachers to tell. you’ve gotta figure out how to deal with the situation yourself. while talking your way out of bad situations is preferable, you need to know that in the adult world, just like in school, the other person probably isn’t interested in “talking it out” and you need to at least know how to dodge when someone throws a punch at you.

3. Paul

March 22nd, 2009 1:32 pm

@Andy: Exactly, often times if you don’t even fight back, you’ll receive punishment. Schools claim they want to prevent harassment, but when harassment occurs in its most serious form, you’re still likely to be punished.

4. LaJuana

October 14th, 2009 11:45 pm

My son was sucker punched at school by another student and reacted by defending himself (or fighting back) and received the exact same punishment has his perpetrator, 8 days suspension plus community service through an arbitration system!!!!! I appealed to the school and school board with no success and I am in the process of deciding whether to accept this punishment or fight it through the court system which we all know is unfair and expensive.

5. jholland

November 24th, 2009 11:38 am

I myself am a high school student. the school’s policy is no matter what if your involved your are expelled. this means i could be walking down the hall and some one could just puch me in the face, say my buddy CJ comes and pulls the dude off me well, by this policy all three of us are expelled. i was involved for being hit,CJ is expelled for have physical contact that is unwanted , and the guy who hit me for well must i say it…

i have to say this policy is retarded,our old policy was great it was the three hit policy.
it shouldnt really have to be explained.

6. brandon

September 27th, 2010 8:47 am

i completly agree with you. the kid sitting next to me is pissing me off and i cant keep my addrenaline from pumping.

What do you think will happen…? (duh)

7. Online bigno

December 14th, 2010 3:58 am

For me the best way has always been discussion, take your time, be calm, and try to talk with him before, it works for me with my 3 children, good luck

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